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2009 READER'S DIGEST DESCRIPTION OF HOW TO BUY A CONDO OR NOT
Charles Hanes
December 2, 2008
Many readers continue to write in and ask me for the Readers Digest
version on How To Buy A Toronto Condo. The quick and easy answer is
to find a knowledgeable hands-on professional Realtor that has actual
Toronto condominium industry experience!
Please note that I did not say find someone with a real estate license as not all Realtors
or people possessing a valid real estate license have a valid background in condos but
rather I emphasize knowledgeable hands-on
professional Realtor.
The answer to that question is as simple as that. If you are not in the business and
actually in the field every day you cannot say that you are hands on.
The condo industry morphs itself every quarter with presale condos being built, new condos
being launched and existing condos being either well managed by an effective condo board
or not and being upgraded out of the reserve fund.
Condos are a very simple while very complex commodity. They are a home and a way of life
to many while to others are strictly investments. Many investors buy into flip,
(sell immediately upon registration), while others buy in as long
term holds and become landlords. Each of these categories of buyers makes its mark
on the outcome of this alleged effort to introduce a new vertical residential community to
the city.
You have read enough selling rhetoric in all those advertising ad rags and newspapers! I
didnt design and develop this web site to sell condos for developers and they
dont pay me to write about them. I dont clutter up your visit to my web site
with pop up ads that interfere with your enjoyment of your time spent with us. This is
simply the ONLY unbiased resource center for a truthful and factual assessment on condos
in Toronto.
This is no small job! I give you this meaningful, behind the scenes information on one of
the biggest dollar investment that most people ever make in their lives!
To be quite honest, most condos in Toronto are not great! Many developers are
entrepreneurs with money but do not have a lot of experience in building buildings. Over
my, almost, three decades of Toronto condos experience, Im one of the early pioneers
of not only the condo industry but also the digital world of condo marketing. Having
produced my first interactive CD-ROM profiling Toronto condos way back in 1992
before the Internet and/or Windows ever came along, I have seen and/or been involved with
just about them all!
Its actually amazing to me the low standard of quality that the majority of
developers get away with. They get away with these low standards because the buying public
let them. Oh, buyers could form buying clubs and stand together to get value for
their money but they dont! So what is there that would lead these bottom
line management guys (Ive seen them fight over fixing/replacing inferior finishes).
So, Toronto condo buyers have really got only themselves to thank for the artificial
outcome of the condo market.
Whats artificial you ask? Well, when 18 Yorkville was being
pre-sold, just three years or so ago, Great Gulf shocked the market with a $400+ per
square foot starting price! Great Gulf was also selling the Hudson in the Entertainment District at
$315 per square foot for the exact same finishes and appointments as their Yorkville site.
My sales record shows 38 deals at The Hudson
and only a handful at 18
Yorkville specifically because of the price point. Great Gulf is a very sound and
reputable developer (they dont pay me to say nice things about them, they just are
good). They wont bend over backwards for buyers but they give you what you bought
and that decided more than you get from the greater majority of developers in Toronto.
Since then, Yorkville has seen the
new Four Seasons with
suites at $1,400 per square foot, Regency
at over $1,000 per square foot, 100 Yorkville at just
over $1,000 per square foot, and Museum House (one of my
favourites) at around $1,200. So, the logical question is, what changed the market by some
300 400 percent ! ? !
These astronomical pricing structures opened the door for tons of middle market condo
developers to jump in and capitalize on the high end going prices to come in with middle
market stuff at $600 - $800 per square foot. It is here that the dogs are plentiful in
Toronto!
Oh, the units are sold like they are truly mansions in the sky but
what you get is decidedly other! I have worked with most of the
developers in Toronto and can tell you from first hand experience most are working full
time to give buyers the minimal standard in finishes.
Oh, they promise you an Executive Concierge but youll get a
minimum wage security guard. Not that there is anything wrong with
minimum wage security guards, they are just not professionally trained concierges that
were promised when the sales were being made. In general, the Toronto condo industry
constitutes a great bait and switch game and in many
instances its being played by some of the absolute best in the game.
Our job is NOT to SELL you anything here at simplycondos.com! I give you the knowledge that you need to try
to be on a level playing field with some of the best sales pros in the business, (who are
legally obligated to sell you the condo sellers agency).
Our job is protect you, the buyer! We assume the same legal obligations as the
sellers agent which are to protect ONLY the best interests of our client. The big
difference is that my services are FREE to you.
With all due respect to my fellow Realtors, it is ONLY my knowledge
that makes me so different than most other Realtors in Torontos 22,000+ board of
Realtors. Not real estate knowledge but condo knowledge. Toronto Realtors are all
licensed and undergo initial educational requirements to get a license and ongoing
education in order to keep up with the ongoing changes in the industry.
But in reality, a real estate license is not sufficient to educate you on the inner
workings of the condo industry as that knowledge has to be and can only be acquired first
hand! To know if a building was built with good construction quality and finishes is not
something that licensing can teach. To know what developers are good and which ones should
be stayed away from can only be learned by someone who has spent a great deal of time in
the trenches in the local condo industry.
I spent the majority of my career, (25 years +), without a real estate license working
with developers to market and sell condos here in Toronto and all over the world. It was
only a few years back that developers started working with Realtors at all! When I worked
the sales floor we didnt co-operate with Realtors. Today, one
of the biggest buyer pools for Toronto condos are Realtors, speculating on condos. Judging
by recent turn-outs at pre-launch Priority Realtor Sales Events that
Ive attended, someone should tune some of these investor/speculators
into the reality that prices of $600 per square foot for eight foot stippled ceiling units
in a softening rental market simply does not cost justify! Oh, well,
theyre their own client but even with a 4% price reduction and possibly a couple
free upgrades this type of investment has got to be seen as higher risk!
Has anybody looked around to see the condos that are presently being built! Heres an
off the top of my head overview of whats gone on over the past 18 months or so in
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Under
construction
100 Yorkville
Burano
Lumiere
Toy Factory
Four Seasons
155 Cumberland
Museum House
Ritz Carlton
Shangri La
Trump
West Harbour City Phase I
West Harbour City
Phase II
Festival Tower
The Avenue
The Forest Hill
M5V
66 Portland
Glasshouse
Panorama
Montage at Cityplace
Luna at Cityplace
Parade at Cityplace Phase I
550 Wellington West
50 FREED
FREED
Quay West
L tower
X Condo
Churchill Park
Maple Leaf Square
300 Front
Vu
Liberty Towers
Bohemian Embassy
Westside Lofts
Bridge
Beyond The Sea
Red Hot Condos
Vibe Condos
Printing Factory
About to occupy within 3
months
Glas
Murano
London On The Esplanade
Bloor St. Neighbourhood
Malibu
Waterpark City
600 Mount Pleasant
The Met Phase II
College Park Phase II
20 Gothic
Zip Condos
Pure Spirit Lofts
Corktown Phase I
Garment Factory Lofts
New Sites Just Launching
Two tower development at Cumberland/Bay/Avenue Rd
U Condominiums
Charlie
Parade at Cityplace Phase II
LTD
Florian
King West Condominiums in
Liberty Village
Minto King West
Liberty Market Lofts
California Condos
Star Condos
Market Wharf
Clear Spirit Lofts
Corktown Phase II
King East Condos
Moved into in 2008
1 St. Thomas
Regency
Hazelton
One12
N1/N2
West One
60 Lofts
College Park Phase I
The Met Phase I
Panache
Minto Midtown
Radio City Phase II
9T6
Element
These condos dont even touch on the condos built over the
past 2 years (let alone before that):
Harbourview Estates
ICON
Hudson
18 Yorkville
One City Hall
Waterclub
Tip Top Lofts
Matrix at Cityplace
Apex at Cityplace
Optima at Cityplace
Radio City Phase I
169 John St
And all of these condos and lofts are located in just the very small condo markets in TREB
areas in which we specialize (C01,
C02, C03, C08, C09, C10) basically from Lake Ontario on its south,
Bathurst St. on its west, Mt. Pleasant on the east and St. Clair Avenue (Uptown)
on its North. There are substantially more high density condos in many of the
surrounding areas (we have affiliate Realtors ready to serve you in ALL condo areas in
Toronto, including North York, Scarborough, Markham, Mississauga, Etobicoke, etc.).
There is no statistical data to allow you to calculate the percentage of buyers that are
speculators in these buildings? As a sellers agent I could
easily sell you a condo today, but as a buyers agent I
couldnt recommend you to buy it! It all depends on what side of the bridge you are
on. Sellers agents have a legal obligation to protect ONLY the best
interests of their client so selling one wouldnt be a stretch to me. But
as your buyers agent I accept the same fiduciary obligation to protect
ONLY the best interests of my client that would be YOU
and protect I do!
So, all these units and anywhere from 70% - 80% speculators in the above list
of downtown (these are all only downtown). I watched it do this last time the market
crashed (1989)! And the developers just keep on developing as no-one really knows exactly
when to bail out and theyll go until the balloon bursts!
So are condos still a sound investment? My answer is a qualified yes!
The presale condo (sale of none existent buildings from plans) market
has lost its way over the past couple of years. Prices are disproportionately high,
due to consumers running out in a hysteria mentality to invest once again in condos. The
market in Toronto was relatively dormant for almost 15 years from the crash in 1989 (when
the market crashed in 89 I was selling Minto Plaza at $400 way back then and hardly
knew the market was crashing).
Resales (sales of existing condo units in existing buildings) and
Assignments (resale of a presale unit before it registers) will drive
the industry for the next few years. There is still good value in resale condos (older
buildings by good developers in good locations) and Im advising most of my clients
to hold their cash (Cash Is King) so we, as a group can buy up Assignments
as they come up. With the overbuilding shown above, there will certainly be good
investments to be had buying up buildings that were sold a couple years back. I believe
that there will be a constant flow of good investments buying original buyers (speculators)
out of their existing Agreements of Purchase and Sale in good buildings.
My clients know what the good buildings are so please, if you are interested in investing
in condos, either here, in Manhattan,
or Florida please Register here and Ill make sure that you are
kept informed.Charles Hanes |